Re: F814W-z vs F775W-z

From: Henk Hoekstra (hoekstra@uvic.ca)
Date: Wed Jan 18 2006 - 14:52:05 PST

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    Hi,

    Let me provide a brief update on the lensing aspects. I spoke about this
    with Saul in some detail, and I believe that we have to be careful
    to put too much weight on the lensing aspects.

    What is clear that the best approach from the lensing perspective
    is to go as deep as possible in F814W. However, if the focus would
    be to calibrate masses at high-z, a "pure lensing" proposal would
    target clusters at somewhat lower z (say 0.9-1.0). The current
    sample is challenging from a lensing perspective and we should keep
    this in mind.

    I believe that the real new angle should focus on the CMR of these
    clusters. This can only be done with HST and we have a really unique
    sample here! This is new science that wasn't in the previous proposal.

    For the lensing aspects, there are some clear science goals, but the
    improvements in mass might not be convincing for the TAC. In the
    discussion with Saul yesterday, we abandoned (for the moment at least)
    using F814W and go back for F775W.

    Interestingly, the F775W integrations times need to be 1/3 of the
    F850LP exposure times to reach the same effective number densities.
    Hence F775W is 3 times faster. This is the reason why the best
    strategy for lensing is to focus on the bluer filter. The changes in
    redshift distribution appears not to be too much of a problem as
    essentially all galaxies in detected in z' are also detected in i'
    (for same integration time), but the converse is not true.

    But this is not a good strategy for the SNe component. An interesting
    balance is achieved if we ensure the F850LP total exposure time is
    3x the F775W time. In that case the effective number densities are
    remarkably similar, and one mostly sees the same galaxies.

    With this approach we can improve the shape measurements of the
    galaxies by combining measurements in the two filters. This increases
    the effective number density somewhat. In addition about 20% of the
    objects are found in only one of the two filters.

    Here are the effective number densities for 4 strategies, based on
    a total of 16 orbits (note that the last one is there only for
    completeness):

    # norbit norbit
    # F775W F850LP n_eff
    # [arcmin^{-2}
    #
    0 16 135
    4 12 165 <----
    8 8 180
    16 0 215

    For 8 orbits F814W and 8 orbits F850LP, we get n_eff ~ 220

    currently we have something like

    1.5 6.5 100

    A strategy with a 3x longer total exposure in z vs i results
    in a number density of ~165, which is 65% larger than what we
    have now. As the error in the mass is proportional to 1/sqrt(N),
    we reduce the error from 30% to about 23%

    The difference with the "optimal" lensing approach (whihc is to
    add 8 orbits of F814W) is fairly small, as this would reduce
    the fiducial mass error to 20%.

    Reducing the error from 30% to 23% may not seem much, but
    effectively we increase the sample by 65%. This is very important,
    because the current sample of clusters is very limited.

    Based on these considerations I am happy to do the write up
    based on a strategy of 25% F775W and 75% F850LP. This also works
    better for the SNe.

    An interesting question is whether this is (close to) the optimal
    combination for CMR studies as well: we should have rather similar
    S/N in both filters with this approach, so no single filter dominates
    the error in the color. Is that correct?

    Cheers,
    Henk



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